The Spamming Of Psilocybes In Every Fungal Place

[Hoosierfunguy]

I've seen a bunch of spamming recently, here and other platforms with the intention of selling psilocybin mushrooms or spores. I dismiss the spam,  yet psilocybins have become a much more common theme recently among mycologists, which has led me to do some searching out in the matter of possible health benefits.  There's conflicting information about this topic,  so I wondered if anyone wanted to share what they've learned in regards to possible benefits beyond a recreational mind trip.  I've learned that psilocybin gets desphosphoralated to become psilocin, which breaches the blood-brain barrier and ecites the sensory nerves in ways that enhance the overall sensory system and I'm thinking that there may well be some extremely useful benefits to such a situation, to the mind and to the body,  however,  I also see that this is something that shouldn't be done without being aware of risks with dosage. I do remember when Steve found that gymnopilus at Shades, which is not even supposed to be native to the area lol. 

From my research,  most controlled substances are not controlled for any moral reasons,  as is portrayed, but are controlled so that the pharmaceutical industry can maintain their monopolies on proprietary chemicals that they produce for the allopathic medical field.  The same investors in the pharmaceutical companies are also invested into the "war on drugs" and have holdings in private prisons around the world,  so that they can ensure a steady money flow and that people will be beholden to their monopoly on medicine.  

 

Yes,  there is a vast conspiracy that the conspirators themselves have openly admitted.  

 

So beyond that,  has anyone looked into any research done in this arena of psilocybin mushrooms before? 

[Dreivayn Wera]

I'm in no way an expert on psilocybin, but I have taken it twice, the first time it was a palm sized dose so I didn't trip, now for context, I have bad anxiety, depression, adhd, anger issues, and autism, when taking them the first time, I had no anxiety, my depression was non existent, and my adhd wasn't acting up. The second time i did trip, but the day after I had taken it I woke up to no anger, now to be clear, I still get agitated by little things every once in a great while, but after that second trip, my anger issues are 10 times better and easier to not only deal with but to control as well, Ive heard paul stamets talk a lot about psilocybin and the effects it has on the human brain, and he describes that psilocybin stimulates neurogenesis, which is essentially the process of your neural pathways stemming out and creating new ways of thinking, for example (disclaimer this is not the full story), paul stamets when he was a teen in high school, had a really bad stuttering problem caused by social anxiety, he took psilocybin, and the next day when he went to school he passed this girl he had grown quite fond of, he had never been able to talk to her because of his anxiety and every time he would try it was just a mess of incoherent stuttering, but the day after he'd taken it he went to school and she said hello to him in the hallway as she passed, and for the first time in his entire life, he was able to say hello without stuttering.

[Dreivayn Wera]

I neglected to read the "In regards to possible benefits beyond a recreational mind trip". sorry about that, adhd kicked in

[Bruce]

HFG -- You should probably check out the psychedelic research site at https://maps.org/  They're leading the way.

I've fully explored those realms, mostly as a college student in the late 70s. It can certainly provide a new way of looking at things, and give you insight into how the human brain works. I think many people would benefit from being shocked out of the kind of complacency that leads to narrow-mindedness and the belief that you already have everything all figured out. The experience is both ego-shattering and humbling, if the dose is high enough.

And yet, there are diminishing returns. Most the benefits come from the first few trips. After that, it's all just variations on a theme...impressive almost every time, but you're no longer learning anything. 

Micro-dosing seems to be the latest craze...just a mg of psilocybin, or even less, as a mood elevator and to aid in creativity. I haven't explored that very much, but I can't imagine it providing the same insights. You can get much the same effect with a standard dose of Prozac.

Bruce

 

[Hoosierfunguy]

3 hours ago, Dreivayn Wera said:

 "Ive heard paul stamets talk a lot about psilocybin and the effects it has on the human brain, and he describes that psilocybin stimulates neurogenesis, which is essentially the process of your neural pathways stemming out and creating new ways of thinking...

I've seen and heard Stamet's name brought up in a few different articles I've read, regarding chemical analysis of these.  Thanks for your reply!  I study natural medicine and have found a lot of benefits in many mushrooms, growths and plants and I love helping people escape the dependence on allopathy,  ESPECIALLY in wake of CONVID19.  So I certainly see that this is something to study for when the SHTF and we need to go "berserk."😂🤣

[Hoosierfunguy]

40 minutes ago, Bruce said:

HFG -- You should probably check out the psychedelic research site at https://maps.org/  They're leading the way.

I've fully explored those realms, mostly as a college student in the late 70s. It can certainly provide a new way of looking at things, and give you insight into how the human brain works. I think many people would benefit from being shocked out of the kind of complacency that leads to narrow-mindedness and the belief that you already have everything all figured out. The experience is both ego-shattering and humbling, if the dose is high enough.

And yet, there are diminishing returns. Most the benefits come from the first few trips. After that, it's all just variations on a theme...impressive almost every time, but you're no longer learning anything. 

Micro-dosing seems to be the latest craze...just a mg of psilocybin, or even less, as a mood elevator and to aid in creativity. I haven't explored that very much, but I can't imagine it providing the same insights. You can get much the same effect with a standard dose of Prozac.

Bruce

 

As always, you have been very helpful.  I was hoping that you had some input on this topic and you did not disappoint.  Thanks Bruce!

[Bruce]

On 1/25/2023 at 9:48 AM, Hoosierfunguy said:

From my research,  most controlled substances are not controlled for any moral reasons,  as is portrayed, but are controlled so that the pharmaceutical industry can maintain their monopolies on proprietary chemicals that they produce for the allopathic medical field.  

Absolutely. Making chemical compounds (or plants that contain them) illegal to possess is both ethically wrong and practically ineffective, and offends my libertarian sensibilities.

In that context, perhaps my final statement should be turned around:  "You can get much the same effect from a standard dose of Prozac as you get from half a mg of psilocybin."

I know one person who micro-doses on mushrooms as a way to chase away the blues, and it seems to be effective for her. In doing so, she's not even getting high, really. Both LSD and psilocybin have a very high margin of safety, even when compared to commercial medications. Any negative effects are mental, not somatic; and an actual "overdose" (in the sense that it's life-threatening and requires medical intervention) is almost unheard of.

I will state that actual mushrooms do contain other compounds for which the same statements may not be accurate. When exploring natural sources, you have to take into account all of the components in the mix, not just the one you consider to be "desirable."

Take it from a chemist who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for 30 years (and is glad to be out). 

Bruce

[Liquid Cultured]

On 1/25/2023 at 9:48 AM, Hoosierfunguy said:

I've seen a bunch of spamming recently, here and other platforms with the intention of selling psilocybin mushrooms or spores. I dismiss the spam,  yet psilocybins have become a much more common theme recently among mycologists, which has led me to do some searching out in the matter of possible health benefits.  There's conflicting information about this topic,  so I wondered if anyone wanted to share what they've learned in regards to possible benefits beyond a recreational mind trip.  I've learned that psilocybin gets desphosphoralated to become psilocin, which breaches the blood-brain barrier and ecites the sensory nerves in ways that enhance the overall sensory system and I'm thinking that there may well be some extremely useful benefits to such a situation, to the mind and to the body,  however,  I also see that this is something that shouldn't be done without being aware of risks with dosage. I do remember when Steve found that gymnopilus at Shades, which is not even supposed to be native to the area lol. 

From my research,  most controlled substances are not controlled for any moral reasons,  as is portrayed, but are controlled so that the pharmaceutical industry can maintain their monopolies on proprietary chemicals that they produce for the allopathic medical field.  The same investors in the pharmaceutical companies are also invested into the "war on drugs" and have holdings in private prisons around the world,  so that they can ensure a steady money flow and that people will be beholden to their monopoly on medicine.  

 

Yes,  there is a vast conspiracy that the conspirators themselves have openly admitted.  

 

So beyond that,  has anyone looked into any research done in this arena of psilocybin mushrooms before? 

Ive researched them in all aspects for well over a decade, and all that comes with it. I have the stamets books and the psilocybin bible etc if you wanted to borrow them. I was a trip "shaman" or guide, have hundreds of trips under my belt etc. I was what they call commonly as a psychonaut. Hit me up, I'm also on telegram to chat. I also have spore prints etc if you wanted to study them yourself. I recently had a kid so my lab and stuff has been taken down and put away.

Edited January 29 by Liquid Cultured
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[seowork598]

I completely agree with you that the recent increase in spamming for selling psilocybin magic mushrooms or spores is quite concerning. However, as mycologists, it's important to stay informed about the potential benefits of psilocybin beyond just recreational use.

From my own research, I've found that psilocybin has been studied for its potential therapeutic effects on a variety of mental health conditions, including depression, anxiety, PTSD, and addiction. Studies have shown that psilocybin can increase creativity, improve mood, and even promote the growth of new brain cells.

[Hoosierfunguy]

From all I've seen, it appears the benefits of psilocybin are found in micro, uniform dosages that don't generate a distortion of sensory stimulation (tripping),  which does appear to have long term or even permanent effects that may not be able to be undone.  It's a very concerning topic to me,  as I see that there are,  indeed, very well documented benefits for a multitude of uses. 

Psilocybe is a very popular and extremely interesting study and discussion, as I find most things in fungal studies.